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	<title>Kommentare zu: Win a laptop from Toshiba (again)</title>
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		<title>Von: kasi</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>kasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sebastian,
The article can be still voted for at
http://www.lovetolead.info/VoteArticle/tabid/55/Default.aspx?EntryID=93&amp;like=yes but they do not show the article on the site anymore.

@Confused,
I don&#039;t provide a service. As I said, I see this an experiment and an effort to raise awareness. If people want to win through lovetolead, they can do so. But they increase their chance of winning through voting on the articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sebastian,<br />
The article can be still voted for at<br />
<a href="http://www.lovetolead.info/VoteArticle/tabid/55/Default.aspx?EntryID=93&#038;like=yes" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.lovetolead.info/VoteArticle/tabid/55/Default.aspx?EntryID=93&#038;like=yes'>http://www.lovetolead.info/VoteArticle/tabid/55/Default.aspx?EntryID=93&#038;like=yes</a> but they do not show the article on the site anymore.</p>
<p>@Confused,<br />
I don&#8217;t provide a service. As I said, I see this an experiment and an effort to raise awareness. If people want to win through lovetolead, they can do so. But they increase their chance of winning through voting on the articles.</p>
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		<title>Von: Sebastian Olenyi</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Olenyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, they blocked the text form &quot;Nachhall-Texter&quot; - i can&#039;t find it on the site anymore, although ur link still works...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, they blocked the text form &#8220;Nachhall-Texter&#8221; &#8211; i can&#8217;t find it on the site anymore, although ur link still works&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Von: confused</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2502</link>
		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. What &quot;service&quot; do you think you are providing? If people want to win a laptop, they can just sign up on the lovetolead site. Why should they go through you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. What &#8220;service&#8221; do you think you are providing? If people want to win a laptop, they can just sign up on the lovetolead site. Why should they go through you?</p>
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		<title>Von: kasi</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2493</link>
		<dc:creator>kasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no intention to spoil the debate. And as a blogger myself, I take bloggers very seriously. But as an apology to anybody who is offened: If any of the other bloggers would like to enter the lottery of the laptop, they should send me a note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no intention to spoil the debate. And as a blogger myself, I take bloggers very seriously. But as an apology to anybody who is offened: If any of the other bloggers would like to enter the lottery of the laptop, they should send me a note.</p>
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		<title>Von: lovetolead</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2492</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetolead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are taking bloggers very seriously. However, you are not. Some individuals have entered each week so far and are enjoying the competition in the way it is intended to be enjoyed. You seem intent on spoiling it for them, and that is showing a complete lack of respect for their endeavours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are taking bloggers very seriously. However, you are not. Some individuals have entered each week so far and are enjoying the competition in the way it is intended to be enjoyed. You seem intent on spoiling it for them, and that is showing a complete lack of respect for their endeavours.</p>
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		<title>Von: kasi</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>kasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/?p=184#comment-2476</guid>
		<description>Hi Mike,

as I said to you on the phone, there is no intention to destroy the site or spoil the competition. I think it is a good idea that companies interact with their customers, I think it is a good idea to stir the debate between bloggers, I think it is a good idea to create a situation where bloggers can do what they love best and get rewarded for it. I think the main idea for Toshiba is to get people hooked on their new laptop and they try this experiment in the hope to get a lot of attention. And maybe such an experiment works better then an advertising campaign in newspapers.

But I want three things: first, I want to raise awareness that when working with bloggers you need to take them seriously - and not just use them as a marketing-tool. If you think that an article does not hit the question - you need to allow the voters to decide upon that. If you want to create a transparent debate, you need to show what criteria are used to determine the rank - and not just label them with numbers. If you want bloggers to put &quot;Vote me&quot;-Buttons on their blog, and somebody does it and receives a lot of attention, you can&#039;t accuse him of spoiling the debate. If you want people to be attracted by the prize, you can&#039;t avoid that other people are also eager to win the prize even if they don&#039;t blog themselves. I am very straightforward in my methods, open and transparent and anybody could do the same to attract votes for his or her article. In fact, several people have contacted me and have suggested to do the same in one of the next rounds following my example. This is blogging - once the seeds are planted, people will do what they think.

Secondly, I see this as a social experiment. In the first round where I won the laptop, I did very little to announce the competition, just send a short email to a few real networks of people. The response rate was overwhelming. Maybe because people could do very little to gain very much. And it was also overwhelming that one in ten voters would like to give away the laptop to somebody more in need - or simply sell it and donate it to a good cause. In this round, laberena helps me with providing the article, but the recipient will have to donate 500 Euro to a charitable cause. It will be interesting to see how many people respond to this call for voting - knowing that in case they win they also have to donate something.

Thirdly, I want to encourage companies to cooperate more closely with bloggers when developing these networks. I think bloggers have a lot of experience how to create interesting and readable articles and stir a public debate. Combined with a real network of real people, bloggers can really move something. The most fascinating example in my close surrounding is the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bar-blog.de&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bar-Blog&lt;/a&gt;&quot; which just saved a hundred trees from being cut down. Real changing the world, having a positive impact. The potential of Lovetolead is far from being reached. Only 100 posts in three weeks? Only a few thousand votes all together? Still a pagerank of Zero? Still slow visitor rates? I personally think there can be more power unleashed - if Toshiba takes bloggers seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>as I said to you on the phone, there is no intention to destroy the site or spoil the competition. I think it is a good idea that companies interact with their customers, I think it is a good idea to stir the debate between bloggers, I think it is a good idea to create a situation where bloggers can do what they love best and get rewarded for it. I think the main idea for Toshiba is to get people hooked on their new laptop and they try this experiment in the hope to get a lot of attention. And maybe such an experiment works better then an advertising campaign in newspapers.</p>
<p>But I want three things: first, I want to raise awareness that when working with bloggers you need to take them seriously &#8211; and not just use them as a marketing-tool. If you think that an article does not hit the question &#8211; you need to allow the voters to decide upon that. If you want to create a transparent debate, you need to show what criteria are used to determine the rank &#8211; and not just label them with numbers. If you want bloggers to put &#8220;Vote me&#8221;-Buttons on their blog, and somebody does it and receives a lot of attention, you can&#8217;t accuse him of spoiling the debate. If you want people to be attracted by the prize, you can&#8217;t avoid that other people are also eager to win the prize even if they don&#8217;t blog themselves. I am very straightforward in my methods, open and transparent and anybody could do the same to attract votes for his or her article. In fact, several people have contacted me and have suggested to do the same in one of the next rounds following my example. This is blogging &#8211; once the seeds are planted, people will do what they think.</p>
<p>Secondly, I see this as a social experiment. In the first round where I won the laptop, I did very little to announce the competition, just send a short email to a few real networks of people. The response rate was overwhelming. Maybe because people could do very little to gain very much. And it was also overwhelming that one in ten voters would like to give away the laptop to somebody more in need &#8211; or simply sell it and donate it to a good cause. In this round, laberena helps me with providing the article, but the recipient will have to donate 500 Euro to a charitable cause. It will be interesting to see how many people respond to this call for voting &#8211; knowing that in case they win they also have to donate something.</p>
<p>Thirdly, I want to encourage companies to cooperate more closely with bloggers when developing these networks. I think bloggers have a lot of experience how to create interesting and readable articles and stir a public debate. Combined with a real network of real people, bloggers can really move something. The most fascinating example in my close surrounding is the &#8220;<a href="http://www.bar-blog.de" rel="nofollow">Bar-Blog</a>&#8221; which just saved a hundred trees from being cut down. Real changing the world, having a positive impact. The potential of Lovetolead is far from being reached. Only 100 posts in three weeks? Only a few thousand votes all together? Still a pagerank of Zero? Still slow visitor rates? I personally think there can be more power unleashed &#8211; if Toshiba takes bloggers seriously.</p>
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		<title>Von: lovetolead</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>lovetolead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said on the lovetolead.info site; we don&#039;t understand your agenda. If you like the site, then please can you and your friends make a sensible and relevant response.

If you don&#039;t, then ignore us, go away, and stop spoiling the competition for people who do enjoy the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said on the lovetolead.info site; we don&#8217;t understand your agenda. If you like the site, then please can you and your friends make a sensible and relevant response.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t, then ignore us, go away, and stop spoiling the competition for people who do enjoy the debate.</p>
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		<title>Von: kasi</title>
		<link>http://www.karsten-wenzlaff.de/2007/01/26/win-my-laptop-from-toshiba-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2467</link>
		<dc:creator>kasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as comment: Toshiba has censored the previous article. The link should work now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as comment: Toshiba has censored the previous article. The link should work now.</p>
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